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Unclear Pronoun Antecedent

From the first section: "At age 20, she gave birth to her first child, which her mother gave up for adoption."

It is unclear who gave the child up for adoption: was Linda the "mother", or was Linda's mother the "mother"?

This is sloppy writing for a significant detail, but I don't have the time to check with primary sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Johnny Mnemonic (talk • contribs) 21:02, 6 January 2015 (UTC)[reply]

Activist

Since she had said she was forced to become a pornographic actress, I say we shouldn't define her as one in the first paragraph. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.253.248.27 (talk) 02:39, 6 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Many people are best-known for things done against their will. Deeds can be verified, motives can't. NeoAdamite (talk) 18:29, 21 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Other Hollywood

This article keeps quoting this book, but not once does it give page numbers. The tag should not be removed until this major reference issue is addressed. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:58, 27 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I Made Linda Lovelace Gag

Theres no mention of the david allan coe song "I Made Linda Lovelace Gag". —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.187.161.74 (talk) 03:38, 27 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This is an Encyclopedia, not a trivia list.NeoAdamite (talk) 15:01, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

This whole article is trivia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.129.224.141 (talk) 01:18, 18 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

@FreeKnowledgeCreator: Why is the reference to Lovelace by DAC removed while the reference to her by Marc with a C is kept ? Oliems (talk) 20:58, 18 December 2016 (UTC)[reply]

Cleanup needed, again

Someone has added a large block of information about David Winters, with whom she either had an affair or a marriage (I can't tell which). It says that Winters helped her leave porn, but other than that I don't see anything notable here. Opinions? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NeoAdamite (talk • contribs) 23:06, 6 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Non-marriage to Traynor

In her 1980 book Odeal, Lovelace states that when she tried to have her marriage to Traynor annulled, no official trace could be found of it ever having taken place. Lovelace thought that the ceremony, apparently conducted by a judge, had been faked. Unless there is more recent evidence to the contrary, I am thinking that this should be mentioned in the article somewhere. HairyWombat 05:07, 1 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Born in the Bronx or in Yonkers?

Right now she was born in the Bronx in the text and in Yonkers in the infobox. One of those is wrong. Calle Widmann (talk) 21:54, 8 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

External links

Sometimes things just creep in and there is just to many "extra" links in the WP:External links section. As a "B-class" article a tag should be avoided so please examine this section for trimming (or adding into the article to: 1)- conform to current practices (none is actually needed for article class advancement), 2)- as article improvement, and 3)- so this concern can be remedied without further action. Thank you, Otr500 (talk) 10:05, 25 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

she never said anything bad about porn

If you read "Ordeal" carefully, you notice that she never says anything bad about pornography, or the porn industry, or the people she worked with, her co-stars, the directors. In fact she says nice things about them and seemed to like hanging out with them. Her entire beef is with Traynor. This should be pointed out. 68.196.1.236 (talk) 12:42, 17 June 2021 (UTC)captcrisis[reply]

Biased

This Wikipedia entry seems highly biased against Linda Loveless. I wish contributions would remain more objective. 2601:601:1500:1E90:9820:BFF5:ED27:7E46 (talk) 01:04, 21 November 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Birthplace in infobox

User:Marbe166, you reverted my edit with the edit summary, "No buroughs in infoboxes". Perhaps I missed it, but where at Template:Infobox person does it state this? Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:25, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

In the Parameters table. "Place of birth: city, administrative region, country." Marbe166 (talk) 23:27, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Marbe166: This is an example of the structure editors should follow, from smallest to largest. It isn't meant to be interpreted literally (no boroughs, towns, or villages). There are many equivalent terms for "city". Please revert your edit. Thank you. Magnolia677 (talk) 23:43, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is no room for interpretations and not taking guidelines literally, that would throw the whole process upside down. City is the smallest, full stop. Bouroughs can be mentioned in the article text. Marbe166 (talk) 23:49, 1 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I agree with Magnolia. In this case "city" just indicates locality, just the three levels of location. We should not include BOTH city and the neighborhood in the city, but if the person was born in a village, town or borough, we should name it. It would certainly not "throw the whole process upside down". For example, Margaret Thatcher was born in Grantham, and the IB rightly says so. In the case of Linda Lovelace, the edit was doubly wrong, as it eliminated the "administative region", which is New York State, so if the IB were to intend New York City, it should actually say "New York, New York, U.S." since New York City is a city in New York State. -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:02, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

No. That is antithetical to the foundational principals that Wikipedia is about. Absolutely EVERYTHING is open to good faith interpretation. I don't know how you've been a regularly active editor for the last decade - including significant contributions at policy boards - with an attitude so hostile to the basic functioning of the site. But that absolutism needed to be taken out back and thrown in the wood chipper around spring of 2016, and the next best time is now. Like the details on most other parameters, the city, administrative region, country is guidance for how to generally format the information. When parameters are generally restricted from a certain type of information, you will see things like "only use...", or "this parameter is not for..." Van Isaac, GHTV^contr_about 17:13, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Agreeing with the above, especially in NYC, the borough is useful information and makes sense to include it. Jessamyn (my talk page) 17:17, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There is no meaningful reason to exclude boroughs of very large cities such as New York or London, and the template advice does not ask us to do so. "City, administrative region, country" is (quite obviously, to me, anyway) an example. Otherwise everyone born in a town or village would have no birthplace at all, which would be utterly ludicrous. Surely the OP is not suggesting that? Bretonbanquet (talk) 19:33, 2 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I think that in a metropolis that has well known and distinct districts/boroughs/arrondissements/Bezirke/Stadtteile/barrios mentioning them in the infobox enhances the its information value for readers. "The Bronx, New York" is more succinct and conveys more information than "New York City, U.S." -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 00:32, 3 March 2025 (UTC)[reply]