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I am assuming that the transcriptions are not mere transliterations, but are supposed to serve a purpose of pronunciation guide, as well? If that is the case, apart from some transcriptions missing entirely, the existing ones are erroneous considering the ħarakāt that were used, so I suggest the following amendments/inclusions:

1) Arab world (Arabic: اَلْعَالَمُ الْعَرَبِيُّ al-ʿālam al-ʿarabī)Arab world (Arabic: الْعَالَمُ الْعَرَبِيّ al-ʿālamu 'l-ʿarabīyy)
2) Arab homeland (اَلْوَطَنُ الْعَرَبِيُّ al-waṭan al-ʿarabī)Arab homeland (Arabic: الْوَطَنُ الْعَرَبِيُّ al-waṭanu 'l-ʿarabīyy)
3) Arab nation (اَلْأُمَّةُ الْعَرَبِيَّةُ al-ummah al-ʿarabīyyah)Arab nation (Arabic: الْأُمَّةُ الْعَرَبِيَّةُ al-ʾummatu 'l-ʿarabīyyah
4) Arab regions (Arabic: أَقَالِيمُ ٱلْعَرَبِ)Arab regions (Arabic: أَقَالِيمُ الْعَرَب ʾaqālīmu 'l-ʿarab)
(Maybe keep the Hamzatu 'l-Waṣli in this one, if it is a direct quote from Al-Maqdisi?)
5) Darija (الدَّارِجَة "everyday/colloquial language")Darija (Arabic: الْدَّارِجَة ad-dāriǧah, “everyday/colloquial [language]”)
6) Aammiyya (ٱلْعَامِيَّة "common language")ʿAmmiyya (Arabic: الْعَامِيَّة al-ʿāmmīyyah, “common [language]”)

Note that I have removed ħarakāt in pausal form, to conform with pronunciation rules, though the diacritics themselves can be added back if that is more in line with Wiki style guidelines for Arabic. I would not suggest adding them to the transcription itself, though, since these are only pronounced within a sentence, and even then only in a high register of Modern Standard Arabic.

I have also removed the Fatħä from the first letter of the first definite article اَلـ, since I am not positive the definite article in modern practice receives a vowel diacritic itself. I have only ever seen (in very posh, linguistic, or religious texts, as well as dictionaries) a Hamzatu 'l-Waṣli used above it. I would be open to using Waṣalāt consistently, too.

Any input is appreciated! –Konanen (talk) 14:02, 28 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

map

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The current map (of Arab League) includes Somalia, Djibouti and Comoros, but excludes Western Sahara. I think it is misleading and unsuitable for this article's infobox. One of the maps from the article Arabic would be a better fit. Mats84 (talk) 10:42, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Skitash This article is not about the Arab League. The lead defines the Arab world as a region that comprises a large group of countries, mainly located in West Asia and North Africa. While the majority of people in the Arab world are ethnically Arab, there are also significant populations of other ethnic groups such as Berbers, Kurds, Somalis and Nubians, among other groups. As per this definition, the correct map that we should be using is the one from the Ar wiki article File:Arab nationalism Map.svg and not the map of the Arab League 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 18:22, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The paragraph below states "The Arab world is at its minimum defined as the 19 states where Arabs form at least a plurality of the population. At its maximum it consists of the 22 members of the Arab League, an international organization". Since the definition of the Arab world is broad and somewhat vague, I believe it's best to stick with the map of the Arab League. The map you've suggested could be considered for use, but given the boundaries with Iran, it seems to be veering into WP:OR. Also, it appears to include Eritrea for some reason. I'm pinging @M.Bitton for their input. Skitash (talk) 19:08, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I agree. It cannot be described as consisting of the 22 members of the Arab league (plenty of reliable sources that support this definition) and, at the same time, include other countries. M.Bitton (talk) 19:14, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Western Sahara is still arab but is not included in the map? 𐩣𐩫𐩧𐩨 Abo Yemen (𓃵) 19:24, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]
We're just following the common definition of the "Arab world". M.Bitton (talk) 19:27, 8 February 2025 (UTC)[reply]