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Oregon 2024 selection
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Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2025
2024 championship should only show Ohio State. For some reason Oregon is listed they were eliminated 20 days ago by Ohio State. 66.42.145.18 (talk) 15:56, 21 January 2025 (UTC)
Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ––kemel49(connect)(contri) 17:43, 21 January 2025 (UTC)- Oregon was selected by Peter R. Wolfe, an NCAA-designated "major selector" of national championships, which are what is listed in that table.
- Wolfe (1992-present), a mathematically based power rating matrix developed by Peter Wolfe and Ross Baker.
- https://wolferatings.com/ratings.htm
https://web.archive.org/web/20250121185959/https://wolferatings.com/ratings.htm
- Oregon 9.598
- Ohio State 9.330 Tournament champ
- Notre Dame 8.655
Michigan 2023 Wolfe Championship
[edit]Why isn't Michigan recognized as having the Wolfe designation for the national championship? If you go on Wolfe's website description page (https://wolferatings.com/descrip.htm) and scroll almost all the way down, you'll see that Michigan is ranked #1 in the post-bowl rankings. BearDown12684 (talk) 19:29, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
- His old UCLA ratings website was never updated post-bowl, so we never added the post-bowl results:
- His new website only came online in November 2024 to post the new 2024 ratings.
- I have never seen that historical results section, which is good enough of a citation to add a
Wfor Michigan. - PK-WIKI (talk) 19:38, 22 January 2025 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 23 January 2025 - Add W to Michigan 2023
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- On the talk page, an editor agreed that the Wolfe national title should be added to 2023 Michigan. However, I cannot do so because I am new. My source is: https://wolferatings.com/descrip.htm BearDown12684 (talk) 00:03, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
Done, thanks for finding that. PK-WIKI (talk) 06:07, 23 January 2025 (UTC)
Is 'Anderson/Hester (Seattle Times)' still a "major selector"?
[edit]The Anderson & Hester math system is notable for picking Oregon this year rather than the CFP champion. But are they still actually a "major selector"?
In the 2023 NCAA records book table, page 115, A&H is listed as Active Seasons — First: 1997 Last: 2022.
In the 2023 book, other active selectors such as the AP Poll, Coaches Poll, etc. are listed as Last: 2022 as well.
But in the 2024 NCAA records book table, page 114, A&H remains at Last: 2022 while the others are incremented to Last: 2023.
A&H is the only major selector to be left at 2022. But note that Richard Billingsley and Dunkel were left at Last: 2019 in a previous book. This is apparently the reason they have been left off our table for 2020–present. I thought I remembered reading a discussion about this, but can't find it now.
In the "Poll System History" section, the dedicated description says "Anderson and Hester (1997-present)". Dunkel continues to say "Dunkel System (1929-present)" despite the table cutting them off at 2019.
I'm unaware of any external limiting factor that would make the 2022 selection their final "major selection". Or of any issues for Billingsley/Dunkel for 2019+.
What should be done about the A&H selections for 2023 and 2024? PK-WIKI (talk) 18:07, 29 January 2025 (UTC)